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The Australian
Government has introduced legislation to
create a tsunami partnership with Indonesia
to rebuild Aceh. The Treasurer, Peter Costello,
says the one billion dollars Australia will
spend in Aceh in the next five years will
mark a new chapter in relations with Indonesia.
The one billion dollars for the tsunami
work will be on top of an existing aid programme
for Indonesia, budgeted at eight hundred
million dollars over the next five years.
Australia also announced other funding worth
131-million dollars to pay for emergency
work already undertaken in Aceh.
Presenter/Interviewer:
Graeme Dobell (ABC Radio Australia)
Speakers: Imron Cotan, Indonesia's
ambassador to Australia
COTAN: Indonesia had
a very bitter experience of colonisation,
that is why I could not imagine personally
to see foreign military personnel openly
operating in Indonesia, and I believe my
feelings were also shared by Indonesians.
But this tragedy opens up our eyes that
indeed we need the help of outsiders. That
also includes military personnel.
DOBELL: Indonesia has warned
foreign aid workers working in Aceh not
to have any contacts with separatist movements.
How much is the Australian side of the partnership
going to have to be careful in Aceh that
it doesn't bump up against this separatist
issue?
COTAN: Well again let me clarify
the point that the Indonesian government
requires foreign humanitarian workers not
to get in contact with the rebels, especially
in order to be able to protect them from
any unfortunate circumstances. And second
of all the Australian government has issued
what they call a code of conduct, which
clearly stipulates that those organisations
financed by the Australian government should
not get involved in separatism, in evangelism,
in labour disputes, as well as those things
that are contrary to the national interests
of the two countries.
DOBELL: If Australians
are going to be working on the ground in
Aceh for at least the next five years though,
isn't it inevitable that some of those Australians
are going to be dealing with Indonesians
who have some sympathy for the separatist
movement?
COTAN: Well again as long as
they are not promoting any idea of say separatism
I think it is quite sensible to say that
they are free to do their humanitarian works,
as long as they are not involved in advocating
separatist movement in Aceh.
DOBELL: Do you see that the
separatist issue though will be a tension
point for Australia and Indonesia in conducting
this partnership?
COTAN: I don't think so, because
the Australian government has firmly stated
that it will honour the territorial integrity
of Indonesia. So separatist movement in
Aceh will not stand in the way in our efforts
to rebuild Aceh.
DOBELL: President Yudhoyono
has given several speeches where he's talked
to Indonesians about the dangers of corruption,
how corruption eats at the Indonesian economy
and affects Indonesia's ability to be a
modern economy. How confident can Australia
be that these loans and these projects will
be properly used, will not be subject to
corruption?
COTAN: First of
all recently the President has decided to
open the office of supreme audit ward, which
is independent in our system in Banda Aceh.
One of the tasks entrusted to this office
is simply to make sure that every cent of
the aid is accounted for, and second of
all we are determined to make sure that
the international standard of accountability
will be implemented. And don't forget as
well that the partnership will be directly
supervised by the President as well as the
Prime Minister of Australia.
http://www.abc.net.au/ra/asiapac/programs/s1319787.htm
Canberra,
9 March 2005
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